What made you go punk front man to kiddie rock?
Well.. all of it was kind of round about. Its a music project for kids and their families but it also started as a creative collaboration for my wife Shanti and me. The first thing we did together for kids was a book called “I Went For A Walk.” Shanti had written the story and suggested I do the illustrations during my many hours of downtime on tour. (Which I would often complain about) I took my time with it and after 5 years it was done. Just as we put out many of our own records, we decided- we may as well put out a book too. This was back in 07 before digital platforms were so popular so we published our own book. Once we had the books in our hands, we arranged a tour of book readings at schools, libraries and bookstores. A lot of the bookings we got were through MYSPACE (the main social media platform at the time - funny to think about now).. Lots of teachers, librarians and Souls fans were stoked to have us. Since we were musicians first, we brought along a guitar to the readings and sang some songs in addition to reading the book. Thats when we realized how fun it was to play with the kids. Shanti had written a song called “Imagination” and “The Number Song” which ended up on our first record. We would play those songs and sometimes try to write/create a song with the kids on the spot. We had a lot of fun. That was the spark. Soon, our good friend Mike Park (Asian Man Records) got wind of what we were up to. He was starting a kids' music offshoot of his label and said he would release our record if we recorded it. That was the motivation we needed to write a few more songs, record them and start playing live. We wanted to make music that we enjoyed listening to, that had a fun, loving, creative spirit to it, with the hopes that families could enjoy it together. The first record, Imagination, came out in 2012.
Who write the songs mostly?
They are usually a 50/50 collaboration between Shanti and me. It varies a bit from song to song though.
Which video was your favorite to film?
I really love the Numbers Song video where I’m running around like a maniac on the beach. It was done in two takes and, man, you can see how red my face is at the end of it..haha! I was going hard. I love how spontaneous it was. We just showed up at the beach at sunset and no one was there.. The spontaneity and fun comes through in the video.
What was the audience reaction of lollapalooza?
It was good. I remember a big bunch of older kids really rocking out to our song “Colors”
With the generation that listens to Bouncing Souls getting older, I’m sure that you’ve seen a wave of kids at your shows?
I’ve seen GENERATIONS of kids at Souls shows now. Some of the early Souls fans have full grown kids in their twenties who are probably having kids now! It was so much fun seeing Souls fans come to our early Play Date shows. Parents with toddlers who hadn’t really been out much since their child was born were so stoked! They would find me after the show and say things like: "Oh man, this was so amazing.. I can share my favorite punk band with my kid!!” Or, "I’m your demographic!!" I think someone actually said that to me when we played Austin City Limits Festival. This happens a lot at Play Date shows.
As far as parenting, how do you two find the balance of working and being a parent?
As far as my work.. I feel very fortunate as a parent to have a lot of time available for my family. I think I've been able to spend more time in my son's early years than the average Dad might. The Souls used to tour 9 plus months a year for about ten years. I’m so glad we didn’t end up having a child back then. I would have been so stressed! I’m really happy Shanti and I were able to navigate those years and come out the way we have. Who knows how it would have went with a child in that situation? I don’t know how some of my musician friends with kids have made it through those waters. The Souls do around 40 shows a year now, which leaves me a lot of time to spend with Ever and Shanti at home where I can also work on my visual art and we can record in our studio.
We have lots of full time working parents who are readers who find that to be a challenge. I’d imagine that the tour life isn’t easy on either side.
I would happily give advice to a parent who works a five day/full time type job but I really have no idea how that works. I work in short bursts where I’m away from home but then when I’m home I’m around 24/7 which I really love. The touring life does present challenges but as I said we don’t tour as much as we used to and we keep a rule of no tours longer than two weeks. We also try to keep those trips far apart too. I do feel really fortunate. I will say one thing as a parent of a 2.5 year old: I’m already seeing how the attention we have been able to give him is paying off..SO.. however you do it.. Spend as much time with your child in the first three years as you can. Figure it out because it pays off!
Any chance of a collaboration with Matt Prior and the terrible twos project or the Sparrows Sleeps Makes A Band collaborations coming up?
We don’t know those guys but we are always game to team up and so do fun stuff!
I love when my two worlds collide and I get to share my world with my kid. Here's the first rough live from the living room video, proving that toddlers don't care if you're an international rock star, when they want something... they get it! Check out their youtube with their previous videos, and subscribe for their new ones during this social distance!
